Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Cloning History =
   
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   The assumption that cloning was impossible in the past is silly.
   The shumerans had precise ephemeris and an advanced system in
   most respects. Bharata and the vedas are excellent examples of
   advanced civilizations. Indian astrology was taking account of 
   the _aspects_between_various_stars_. we cannot even conceive
   the purpose of such a concern. The speeds the vedic sages were
   able to measure beat our quantum physics.
   I Ching is clearly a genetic device. Based on 64 binary combinations,
   what else can it be? 
   Since when we know history? How do we interpret the vedas? Were those
   writer(s) hallucinating or something?
   Cloning was not by far `man's greatest achievement.
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   Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
                                                   ~   
Sun Dec 29 00:44:09 GMT 2002
    At the risk of being aware of trying to squeeze cosmetics from a
    mere icy rock, I suppose `all man in each man' and something human
    even in God. In that way the prophets could approach God and in the
    same way, probing like a bunch of Ewoks, we approach giant icy
rocks.
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Severino Antiori =
   
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   The italian scientist dismisses the birth of the clone. In his
   words, the lady announcing the birth of Eve didn't even know
   what cloning is only months ago, then dismissed it herself.
   At the same time, the scientist who announced a clonebirth
   a month ago, announces one for January 2003. Ah, those mad
   scientists!
   People very often look the same from my viewpoint. Cloning 
   them won't do much for me (or for my clone).
   My clone will take care of this mailing list by far better 
   than I do, being experienced. DNA tends to change |

|:
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                                                   ~   
Sat Dec 28 22:42:35 GMT 2002
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Cloning and the Womb =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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   Cloning has more sense than regular impregnation, in that it
   does not exhaust the woman. As Our Lady Taisha Abelar informs
   us, ladies suffer for seven years after the intercourse; they
   feed the male with thir subtle energy, but their astral body
   is wrecked ever after; _unless_ after seven years of celibacy
   they remain untouched. This is not far fetched at all, in yoga
   ashrams there is a saying `the first six years are the hardest'. 
   Those who have in mind Taisha Abelar begin to suspect she's
   right. Cloning is natural to women. Who ever needed males anyway?
   Cloning is a good policy to stop males inventing organized mass
   religions based on their hate, jealousy and fear of women' s
   superiority. In the harem and at the stake, women will ever prove
   they are closer to God the way the male will never be. The ALHIM
   TzBAVTh (Elohim Tsabaoth) of the Bible is a female deity. One 
   wonders in whose mind came the idea of a male creator. Most absurd
   and yet so many people believe this utter corruption. Some say it
   is the `male plural of a female noun', but it is clear that ALHIM
   is feminine, eventually a host (TzBA) of creating godesses (cloners).
   And look who's `worried' for us, for `mankind' (that excludes the
   abos, niggers, indians, eskomoes, me and you), the very same people
   with fresh blood on their hands. The same institutions that
vietnamize
   the planet, slaughter whole tribes, kill for a barrel, hate the
niggers,
   despise women, prostitute in politics; they are `worried'; sitting on
   their atomic bombs they fear this innocent female child, a messiah.
   Various signs this year, 2002 AA29 our third moon, 2002 MS4 a sign of
   a new religion and of course the `womb to womb' giant Quaoar. Are we
   able to accept the challenge of something new or do we sheeply
imitate
   those who haremize, prostitute, beat us and burn at a stake?
   Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   ALHIM is a plural but it does not mean `gods' as some would
translate.
   Check Zecharia Sitchin on that point and your local rabbi, of course.
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
    
    Never heed what they say. Faith I have and put in you.
    Every day is something new. And nothing else matters!
    Fealty, capable of long waiting, firstborn, old fashioned
    love, never give up on that girl! Sex might suffer because
    of religious and finantial drawbacks. Missionary posture.
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Cloning =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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   If God does not want us to clone anything, how come he created
   us able to?
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   The original Quaoar delineation strangely mentions `firstborn'.
                                                   ~   
Sat Dec 28 22:58:28 GMT 2002
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Chinese Cloning =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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   As for our naive predecessors, taking the primitive chinese
   for example, diagram :|::|: reads:
   `three black ropes entwined'
   a clear reference to our ancients' lack of any knowledge of
   RNA or DNA. That's why they never wrote The Book of Mutations.
   There are several books starting with `citozone in the first
   line of ||||||' and so on. Try a search on `tai hsuan ching'
   and meet my texan friend (T'ai Hsuean Ching). 
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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                                                   ~   
Sat Dec 28 22:37:38 GMT 2002
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   2002 was a copious year as concerns astronomical discoveries.
   An object was discovered early this year, designated `2002 AA29'.
   This object acts as a `quasi sattelite' of our planet, as much as
   Cruithne (discovered six years ago) acts as `trojan' or (some say)
   `second moon'. Therefore 2002 AA29 is our `third moon'. The object
   has closer approaches than Cruithne and is probably bound to be our
   first mining imperia in outer space. 
   Credits:
   Approach and ephemeris calculation = integration was enabled by Jon
   Giorgini's HORIZONS integrator, NASA JPL, Pasadina, CA; Cruithne and
   2002 AA29 information by Korado Korlevic (Korlevic comet) astro.hr
   The largest discovery after Pluto happened this year. The object is
   a giant transneptune named Quaoar.
   It is most intriguing that the `clonine' must have been implanted at
   the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. Cruithne had this delineation: `the
   secondary use of the vagina' and Quaoar delineations swarm with
`womb'.
   The current list of large asteroids looks like this:
        Quaoar
        2002TX300
        Ixion
        2002AW197
        Vesta
        Ceres
        2002TC302
        2002UX25
        Varuna
        2002MS4
        Pallas
        2002VE95
        2001UR163
   All major transneptunes have received at least a provisory
delineation.
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   Appendix
   ========
   
   Infinity Presses & presents 
   An article by Klaudio Zic
   = New Giant Transneptunes =
   
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   This article is meant to be mostly informative for the general
   reader as to an update and choice of information given.
   The good question is:
   `Which are the largest asteroids today (and do they feature in
    astrological analysis)'. The answer is:
    These are the lagest asteroids nowday (and they _do_ appear
    in astrological analysis).
        Quaoar
        2002TX300
        Ixion
        2002AW197
        Vesta
        Ceres
        2002TC302
        2002UX25
        Varuna
        2002MS4
        Pallas
        2002VE95
        2001UR163
    Vesta and Ceres will be familar with some astrologer, and Pallas;
    but where is Juno? Far down the list is Juno (where Chaos and 
    Rhadamanthus transneptuners hold sway). Juno is relatively a small
    object nowdays. What happened?
    It was back in 1992 that it all begun to unwrap behind Neptunes
back.
    The back door slammed open Nov 28th 2000 when Varuna was found, then
    Ixion and lo! Quaoar is the king of the moment. 
    However it might seem strange to new readers, `2002 MS4 conjunct
Spica
    Virginis _does_ figure in president George Bush'd chart, as 2002
VE95
    twin conjunctions seem very significative in Saddam Hussein's
horoscope.
    Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar have received due attention and
(particulary
    Quaoar!) have their rather clear (perhaps somewhat omnious?)
delineations.
    What might seem a breaktrough is that we are able to calculate
Quaoar's
    position for Krishna, the Buddha and Jesus Christ with more than
fair
    accuracy. Therefore the transneptuners (since 1992 QB1) have been
long
    accepted in the world of astrology. 
    If the centaurs miss from the list, it is because of their inferior
    size. The centaurs list can be fpund in the appendixes below.
    Why do we use such objects? The answer cannot be simplier! Quaoar is
    by far the largest asteroid. Three transneptuners are larger than
Vesta
    and Ceres; Varuna and three newly discovered objects are larger than
    Pallas, and the next main belt asteroid is nowhere at sight!
    Size is what matters in this case. There are 600 transneptuners out
    there, but it is size that determines the object of our study,
although
    there might be other reasons (such as eccentricity). 
    The centaurs are quite a few and are all to be taken into account.
    This they do, named or `unnamed', numbered or not. 
    This concludes this info sheet for the general reader.
    Have fun and enjoy the research!
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Appendixes
==========
The major asteroids
(mostly transneptunes)
Quaoar
2002TX300
Ixion
2002AW197
Vesta
Ceres
2002TC302
2002UX25
Varuna
2002MS4
Pallas
2002VE95
2001UR163
2001QF298
1996TO66
2002KX14
2000EB173
1999DE9
2001UQ18
1995SM55
1999TC36
2002CY248
Chaos
2001KA77
2000CN105
   Example listing of the first (`terrorist') transneptuner 1992 QB1
   and the largest objects (in order of appearance; Quaoar first)
   as concerns asteroids (mostly transneptuners) in our system.
   George Bush
 Date: 6.47/7/1946             Equinox of date             Julian
Day:2432007.9
 file:                                   Dist(au) to   Heli-
   Object             perih   e  period  Sun   Earth   LongÜ   ra
dec   mag
ìÿìììììììììììììììììììÿììììììÿìììÿììììììÿììììììÿììììììÿììììììÿìììììììÿììììììÿìììì
A¨1992QB1
2002.11¨40.905¨.06¨290.95¨42.652¨41.661¨296Ü16¨19h56.0¨-22Ü49¨23.5
A¨Quaoar      2002.11¨41.648¨.03¨283.61¨44.702¨44.904¨182Ü51¨12h 4.5¨-
1Ü24¨19.3
A¨2002TX300   2002.11¨38.011¨.12¨284.17¨38.271¨37.299¨288Ü
6¨19h30.2¨-38Ü37¨19.0
A¨Ixion       2002.11¨29.751¨.24¨246.57¨48.933¨48.968¨192Ü13¨13h 7.2¨
11Ü17¨20.2
A¨2002AW197   2002.11¨41.437¨.12¨327.25¨52.588¨53.508¨ 82Ü31¨ 5h25.4¨
37Ü29¨20.5
A¨Vesta       1990.11¨ 2.147¨.09¨  3.62¨ 2.313¨ 1.876¨335Ü57¨ 0h16.7¨-
5Ü46¨ 7.4
A¨Ceres       2002.05¨ 2.548¨.07¨  4.60¨ 2.943¨
2.000¨300Ü16¨20h56.5¨-27Ü45¨ 7.7
A¨2002TC302   2002.10¨28.032¨.77¨  1351¨32.013¨31.261¨251Ü17¨16h
9.1¨-50Ü 5¨18.6
A¨2002UX25    2002.11¨36.569¨.14¨279.53¨48.471¨47.725¨323Ü 4¨21h21.9¨
3Ü 0¨20.2
A¨Varuna      2002.11¨40.979¨.05¨284.41¨41.040¨41.281¨ 27Ü17¨ 2h 9.3¨-
4Ü 1¨20.0
A¨2002MS4
2002.07¨42.732¨.04¨300.24¨45.778¨45.613¨203Ü39¨13h17.0¨-12Ü17¨20.9
A¨Pallas      2002.05¨ 2.136¨.22¨  4.62¨ 3.327¨ 2.538¨283Ü17¨18h39.4¨
22Ü50¨ 9.4
A¨2002VE95    2002.11¨27.901¨.29¨247.48¨41.144¨40.186¨295Ü12¨19h38.2¨-
5Ü18¨20.4
A¨2001UR163   2001.10¨36.124¨.39¨462.40¨66.458¨65.859¨337Ü12¨22h37.7¨-
8Ü13¨22.5
A¨2001QF298   2001.07¨34.999¨.10¨244.73¨42.317¨41.364¨282Ü24¨18h46.3¨-
2Ü26¨20.7
A¨1996TO66
2002.11¨38.181¨.11¨284.18¨40.316¨39.416¨297Ü59¨20h28.5¨-44Ü 4¨20.6
A¨2002KX14    2002.05¨39.219¨.08¨282.00¨42.117¨42.771¨154Ü12¨10h19.9¨
10Ü 6¨21.1
A¨2000EB173   2002.05¨28.561¨.27¨246.96¨43.799¨44.783¨109Ü48¨ 7h17.5¨
9Ü 1¨21.2
A¨1999DE9     2001.04¨32.232¨.42¨415.85¨41.832¨42.369¨ 45Ü16¨ 2h46.6¨
23Ü53¨21.1
A¨2001UQ18    2001.11¨29.667¨.54¨530.78¨70.512¨70.478¨ 11Ü18¨ 0h43.1¨
5Ü38¨23.3
   = Centaurs Size =
   Disclaimer
   ==========
   An unofficial update in centaurs size, based on Harvard MPC /1/
   issue for Dance of the Planets program would estimate the main
   centaurs in the following sequence:
   Centaur      H
   
   1995 SN55    6.0
   Chariklo     6.4
   Chiron       6.5
   2002 GZ32    6.7
   Pholus       7.0
   2002 CR46    7.2
   1998 BU48    7.2
   1999 OX3     7.5
   2000 QC243   7.6
   The centaurs are therefore relatively small (but `near') objects,
   while the transneptunes are by far larger objects. 
   
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   Our clonine has a copious set of Cassini Lilit aspects. True
   Lilit is an _observed_ object (Cassini, Piccioli), or rather
   _was_ an observed object, used in rituals, being popular in
   learned (and occult) european quarters (Germany, Switzerland).
   True Lilit for Our Clonine:
   aspectarian
    60 Jupiter (CR105)
   150 Venus Pholus Mars
   180 Pluto (exact)
     0 Saturn (approaching Adebaran)
   150 Nessus
    90 Iris
   True Lilit at 18 gemini tropical. Reading the delineations:
   Jupiter: frequent consultation of oracles, lectures on `morality',
            smiling in public but intimately unhappy, fictious results
   Pluto  : dangerous proximity of sexually aroused majikians, virginity
            under threat from occultists, weird ritual sex stages
   Venus  : unregular menstrual cycle, love with a childhood friend
   That were the closest aspects and their `classical' delineations
   for the clonine born around Dec 26th 2002. The object is a formerly
   observed `True Lilit' of which one can find copious material using
   
http://groups.google.com search `treu lilit' or `Cassini lilit'. 
   
http://puck.dhs.org/usenet.html Cassini Lilit (True Lilit)
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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   La nostra clonina ha LILIT VERA al 18mo grado dei Gemelli tropicali.
   Leggiamo le delineazioni per i aspetti di Plutone, Giove e Venere. 
   
   Prossimita a rischio di occultisti in grado di agreddire
sessualmente.
   Consultazione di oracoli compulsiva e constante. Sorriso in publico,
   intimamente insodisfatta, ciclo menstruale corrotto, amor con un
amico
   d'infanzia. 
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   telnet://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov:6775  (via browser)   
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   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = 2002 AA29 =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
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   At the birthtime of the supposed clonine, 2002 AA29 third
   moon brushes by Chariklo (in the chalice Crater or Graal
   constellation), cutting Hydra (the snake :|:) constellation
   as it also conjuncts our primary Moon.
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
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   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Quaoar, Cruithne and Cloning =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
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   The Quaoar position (astrologically speaking) ensures a `safe
   nest', the womb (or womb replicator) itself, while Cruithne
   gives the right timing (birthtime).
   2002 AA29 is a womb replicant and DNA replicant. It also
   provides the necessary flux and liquids for the baby to 
   `float' in. 
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
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                                                   ~   
   Sat Dec 28 22:16:34 GMT 2002
        
        Lamia 
        'Rael welcome, we are the Lamia of the pool,
         we have been waiting for our waters to bring you cool.'
                                                Genesis        
                                                 'Lamia'
                                             The Lamb Lies Down on
Broadway
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Clone Wars =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
   
   The news of the Xmas birth of the little clonine filled me
   with immense joy. I don't even care if the event is a real
   one! The idea is more than good. Now arise the moralists
   and their arguments. Let us look at some arguments.
   There is talk of `ethics'. Anybody seen ethics lately? 
   In a world filled with wars, famine, nuclear weapons
   they are speaking about ethics, the same guys who order
   a massacre and get away with it since time immemorial.
   There is talk of `family values'. I guess they didn't
   want a female! All organized religions have something
   against females. The reason is plain, women are by far
   superior than men (I'm one but improving) as Florinda
   Donner and Taisha Abelar clearly inform us.
   The `experts' that commented are clearly jealous, perhaps
   even jealous at the courage and lead this (perhaps false)
   news imply. The wicked charm of Brigitte Boisselier (what
   a name, what a nose) is commanding. 
   And they call 55 000 people a `sect'? What's wrong with that `sect'.
   We've seen corruption in Hare Krsna, blood on the hands of popes, I
   don't see anything wrong or right in one little sect. In fact I
wonder
   could Peter Gabriel be in the sect himself? Inteligent, has shown us
   his skull with no problem, sings of `Rael'...
   Yes Puck Occult Mailing List (more or less occult nowdays)
   and every intelligent being on this planet is informed as
   to Zecharia Sitchin's theory of human cloning and Zimbabve
   Eve. The birth of Eve has been scientifically proven as to 
   time and place. But the jealous scientists don't seem to 
   embrace a broader (360 degrees, inhale expand go with it)
   of the event(s). Yes, events, one baby is to be born an
   arab (a rich arab), and there's at least six of them `announced'.
   Imagine Clonapet working and `I don't want to be burried in a pet
   cemetery'. Who said I don't want to live my life again? As ananta
   (my initiatic name) all infinities are sacred. And anantadeva is
   a snake deity. 
   The Libra sign is in fact a birthgiving device. So the annunaki
   decided to take over. Good. The nonsectarian straight man could
   not resolve his family problems, fix his wife or trash his atom
   bombs. They cloned a baby and are monsters.
   This little messiah has not killed yet and people who actually
   ordered air raids (or stimulated them in Xmas time) judge it
   monstrous. Whoever prayed for the assasinated afghans and iraquis
   at midnight Dec 24th 2002? The arabs gave us perhaps more than
   we gave them. Starting with 1234567890 Mr. Rock'n'feel'her. 
   
   So the lamb is a female. And who is Claude Vorihnon, the founder
   of the sect? We are talking 25 000 B.C., which I'm not sure comes
   from Zecharia's quarters? Lady Pylenor should be handing ol'Sitchin
   a letter from us by now, perhaps including some extra questions for
   the expert? 
   I like it, I like it, I like it!
   They probably condemned the computer before they started hacking 
   themselves. And whoever clones the Turin Shrewd knows the risk
   of having a gay Leonardo coming up or, better, the Baptist himself.
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
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        The
        Dark Planets
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http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8/2000/dark.planets/darkplan.zip
        
        Lamia 
        'Rael welcome, we are the Lamia of the pool,
         we have been waiting for our waters to bring you cool.'
                                                Genesis        
                                                 'Lamia'
                                             The Lamb Lies Down on
Broadway
        
                                                   ~   
Sat Dec 28 22:13:54 GMT 2002
    Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   ALHIM is a plural but it does not mean `gods' as some would
translate.
   Check Zecharia Sitchin on that point and your local rabbi, of course.
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
     
     Quaoar delineation, October 2002:
     
     One note: whenever `the womb' is mentioned, it is (like in the
     case of Cruithne) handled and meant rather as an aditional tool 
     of power women shamans have, than in it's (secondary?) reproductive
     function. Therefore the womb becomes the re-productive majikal
     device.
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Clonine =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
   
   Why don't they ever ask the astrologer? The clonine will be
   jealous of other women because of Venus conjunct (Alpha Serpentis)
   Unukalhai (The Heart of the Snake, devil's degree). The baby messiah
   is imensely sensitive to poison. Not a good position for family
   affairs, either. Well, Christ had such a strange family, too.
   Let us hope nobody dare poison her. I'll pray for her life. She's
   such a treasure. Cruithne conjuncts Ixion and goes on to conjunct
   Quaoar, whose delineations spoke of wombs, wombs, wombs!
   Cruithne had this `delineation', actually: "the secondary function
   of the womb", now `2002 AA29', our `third moon' was discovered at
   the time the baby was (im)planted!
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
   Sat Dec 28 22:26:50 GMT 2002
   Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   ALHIM is a plural but it does not mean `gods' as some would
translate.
   Check Zecharia Sitchin on that point and your local rabbi, of course.
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
   
    With Quaoar in a good position and feminine aspects, we plunge into
    the Return of the Matriachal Queendom. Perhaps we've been born out
    there first, out in the wilderness and not on this Earth. If Quaoar
    is to be as feminine as Moon on the Ascendant (Moon Earth
conjunction).
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Rael welcome =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
   
   Is it so strange to be connected to the omniverse? There's
   a sect on this planet that thinks vedas are holy books. In
   this weird books there is tons of accounts of planets not
   of this world, astral planets. Prahlada Maharaj is one such
   scout that informs us in person. Most saints of this strange
   sect travelled. They even ascended devahans using vimanas or
   swanlike `airplanes'. One sect more or less. Official religions
   believe even stranger things, the better to bog down the only 
   guru we have
   the female.
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
 Sat Dec 28 22:32:41 GMT 2002
   --------------------------------------------------------------------
   The HORIZONS online JPL NASA program has been widely used to check
   for minor planets positions, as well as to produce the ephemeris.
   telnet://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov:6775  (via browser)   
   telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775    (via command-line)
   
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov   horizons@ssd.jpl.nasa.gov
   --------------------------------------------------------------------
   Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   ALHIM is a plural but it does not mean `gods' as some would
translate.
   Check Zecharia Sitchin on that point and your local rabbi, of course.
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
   
   Infinity Presses & presents: an article by Klaudio Zic
   = Tiamat =
   
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
   
   Checking the two months `old' Quaoar delineations, something
   catches my interest. Tiamat.
   Years ago a book, the `Winter Queen' and `Summer Queen' was
   perhaps popular. The summer queen discovers she is the clone 
   of the winter queen. The event happens on Tiamat.
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
Sat Dec 28 23:15:30 GMT 2002
   Flame prevention
   ================
   Ogni can move la coa e ogni cogion vol dir la soa (venethian saying)
   ALHIM is a plural but it does not mean `gods' as some would
translate.
   Check Zecharia Sitchin on that point and your local rabbi, of course.
   As of late I don't have time for flame and answers to stupid insults.
   Taisha's book is available even in the less civilized areas of this
   planet. I did not write it. She did. We have been reading (yes) CC
   and Florinda Donner for some time. Some of us continue to do so after
   30 years or so. You read yours, I read mine. It's a mysterious
planet.
   The author has been manipulating The Book of Mutations since early
   1976. He knew it by heart in a month and we mutually know each other
   by heart ever since and even before. So please no lectures about this
   point, you don't stand a chance. I'll listen to a texan guy I know,
   though, but let us not get hard on this point (I Ching). Know that if
   I get an answer in a second, this means 250 answers in a minute. I
was
   tested in that area. You don't stand a chance. Don't lecture I Ching
   to me. Close that book and meditate on Episode II. I'll be around. 
   The clone was implanted at the time of 2002 AA29 discovery. If you
are
   not familiar with our `third moon', or are an italian reader (meaning
   perhaps temperament only), please don't lecture me on astrology. 
   Disclaimer:
   
   The author is not a woman but will improve. Neither is he ugly.
Neither
   is he less than adored by women. He is also even christian. So I
don't
   really know what you will invent this time. The last time I posted on
   Quaoar in Italy, one woman called me `ladro' (thief). Now, really...
   This article is (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved.
   Quaoar HQ 
http://puck.dhs.org /quaoar mailto:t8@puck.dhs.org
                                                   ~   
   Sun Dec 29 00:15:04 GMT 2002
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