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 Dialogue in Bellaria
 
 
 
 SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's,
 EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN
 
 Report by Zecharia Sitchin
 
 
 
 In what must be a historic first, a high official of the Vatican and a
 Hebrew scholar discussed the issue of Extraterrestrials and the
 Creation of Man, and though different from each other in upbringing,
 background, religion and methodology, nevertheless arrived at common
 conclusions:
 
 *     Yes, Extraterrestrials can and do exist on other planets
 *     Yes, they can be more advanced than us
 *     Yes, materially, Man could have been fashioned from a
 pre-existing sentient being.
 
 
 
 The Participants
 
 The high Vatican official was Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a Catholic
 theologian with impressive credentials: A member of the Curia of the
 Roman Catholic Church, a Prelate of the Congregation for the
 Evangelization of Peoples and the Propagation of the Faith, leading
 exorcist of the Archdiocese of Rome, a member of the Vatican's
 Beatification Committee, an expert on Demonology and the author of
 several books.  Appointed in the Vatican to deal with the issue of
 UFO's and Extraterrestrials, he has made in recent years
 pronouncements indicating a tolerance of the subjects; but he has
 never before met and had a dialogue with a Hebrew scholar, and gone
 beyond prescribed formulations to include the touchy issue of the
 Creation of Man.
 
 The Hebrew scholar was me -- Zecharia Sitchin:  A researcher of
 ancient civilizations, a biblical archaeologist, a descendant of
 Abraham.
 
 The Monsignor and I almost met for such a dialogue last December, but
 it did not come about.  This time we were scheduled to meet in
 Bellaria, Italy, at a conference whose theme was "The Mystery of Human
 Existence."  I arrived there with my wife and a score of fans from the
 USA, on March 31st, scheduled to address the audience of over a
 thousand the next day.  The Monsignor was nowhere in sight; but he was
 there the next morning to hear my presentation.  "I drove the whole
 night from Rome to hear you," he said.
 
 
 
 
 Sitchin's Presentation
 
 My talk, ably translated by my Italian editor Tuvia Fogel, included a
 slide presentation that added a pictorial dimension to the evidence
 from ancient times in support of Sumerian texts, on which my eight
 books based the following conclusions:
 
 We are not alone -- not just in the vast universe, but in our own
 solar system;  There is one more planet in our solar system, orbiting
 beyond Pluto but nearing Earth periodically;  Advanced
 "Extraterrestrials" -- the Sumerians called them Anunnaki, the Bible
 Nefilim -- started to visit our planet some 450,000 years ago;  And,
 some 300,000 years ago, they engaged in genetic engineering to upgrade
 Earth's hominids and fashion Homo sapiens, the Adam.  In that, they
 acted as Emissaries for the Universal Creator -- God.
 
 
 
 The Dialogue
 
 "We have much to talk about," Msgr. Balducci said to me as he came
 forward to congratulate me on my presentation;  "I have great esteem
 for your scholarship," he said.
 
 We returned to the hotel for lunch.  Our table was surrounded in a
 semi-circle by my American fans, intent on not missing a word of the
 forthcoming dialogue.  In the hours-long session, Msgr. Balducci
 outlined the positions he was going to state, from a prepared text, in
 his talk the next day.  While my approach was based on physical
 evidence, his was a purely Roman Catholic theological-philosophical
 one, seeking the spiritual aspects.  Yet, our conclusions converged.
 
 
 
 Msgr. Balducci's Positions
 
 ON UFO's.  "There must be something in it."  The hundreds and
 thousands of eyewitness reports leave no room for denying that there
 is a measure of truth in them, even allowing for optical illusions,
 atmospheric phenomena and so on.  As a Catholic theologian such
 witnessing cannot be dismissed.  "Witnessing is one way of
 transmitting truth, and in the case of the Christian religion, we are
 talking about a Divine Revelation in which witnessing is crucial to
 the credibility of our faith."
 
 ON LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS:  "That life may exist on other planets is
 certainly possible... The Bible does not rule out that possibility.
 On the basis of scripture and on the basis of our knowledge of God's
 omnipotence, His wisdom being limitless, we must affirm that life on
 other planets is possible."  Moreover, this is not only possible, but
 also credible and even probable.  '"Cardinal Nicolo Cusano (1401-1464)
 wrote that there is not a single star in the sky about which we can
 rule out the existence of life, even if different from ours."
 
 ON INTELLIGENT EXTRATERRESTRIALS: "When I talk about
 Extraterrestrials, we must think of beings who are like us -- more
 probably, beings more advanced than us, in that their nature is an
 association of a material part and a spiritual part, a body and a
 soul, although in different proportions than human beings on Earth."
 Angels are beings who are purely spiritual, devoid of bodies, while we
 are made up of spirit and matter but still at a low level.  "It is
 entirely credible that in the enormous distance between Angels and
 humans, there could be found some middle stage, that is beings with a
 body like ours but more elevated spiritually.  If such intelligent
 beings really exist on other planets, only science will be able to
 prove;  but in spite of what some people think, we would be in a
 position to reconcile their existence with the Redemption that Christ
 has brought us."
 
 
 
 The Anunnaki and the Creation of Man
 
 Well then, I asked Msgr. Balducci, does it mean that my presentation
 was no great revelation to you?  We appear to agree, I said, that more
 advanced extraterrestrials can exist, and I use science to evidence
 their coming to Earth ...I then quote the Sumerian texts that say that
 the Anunnaki ("Those who from heaven to Earth came") genetically
 improved an existing being on Earth to create the being that the Bible
 calls Adam.
 
 My conclusion regarding your presentation, Msgr. Balducci answered, is
 that more than anything else your whole approach is based on physical
 evidence, it concerns itself with matter, not with spirit.  This is an
 important distinction, "because if this distinction is made, I can
 bring up the view of the great theologian, Professor Father Marakoff,
 who is still alive and is greatly respected by the Church.  He
 formulated the hypothesis that when God created Man and put the soul
 into him, perhaps what is meant is not that Man was created from mud
 or lime, but from something pre-existing, even from a sentient being
 capable of feeling and perception.  So the idea of taking a pre-man or
 hominid and creating someone who is aware of himself is something that
 Christianity is coming around to.The key is the distinction between
 the material body and the soul granted by God."
 
 
 
 From Anunnaki to God
 
 Yes, I responded to the Vatican theologian, in my writings I deal with
 the physical evidence; but already in my first book (The 12th Planet),
 the very last sentence of the last paragraph raises the question: If
 the Extraterrestrials "created" us, who created them on their planet?
 
 From this my own thinking and the contents of my subsequent books
 evolved toward the spiritual or "divine" aspects.  The Anunnaki, I
 have explained, were just emissaries (and that is what the Hebrew word
 Malachim, translated Angels, means).  They thought that it was their
 decision to come here for selfish reasons and to fashion us because
 they needed workers; but in truth they only carried out the Almighty
 God's wishes and plans.
 
 If such Extraterrestrials were so involved, Msgr. Balducci said, even
 by your own interpretation they had to do with Man's physics, body and
 rationality: but God alone had to do with the Soul!
 
 My second book, that deals with Man's aspiration to ascend the
 heavens, is titled The Stairway to Heaven, I told Msgr, Balducci, "it
 seems to me that we are ascending the same stairway to heaven, though
 from different steps," I said.
 
 We ended the dialogue as friends, determined to stay in touch and
 continue.
 
 
 
 Reproduction is permitted if accompanied by the statement
 
 ©  Z. Sitchin 2000
 Reproduced by permission.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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